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Front Grille Part #

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:23 am
by Tariq
Hi Paul
If I want to change my Front inner Grille
from 1st Pic
to the USA Caprice version
in pic No 2
what part # I should to buy?
92260693 ,, 92258855 OR 92269769??

and how much for the HSV Grang front Grille? Pic No3

1- Image

2- Image

3- Image

Re: Front Grille Part #

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:57 pm
by Navy Lifer
Tariq, I know this question was posted for Paul....just had some info to pass along.

The original (2011 1st design) is PN 92258855
Used on VIN's through BL544851

2nd design is PN 92260693
Effective date April 2011
VIN's starting with BL544852

PN 92269769 was introduced in 2012 and is current for 2012>>>2014
Effective date Feb 2012
VIN's starting with CL629338

BL = model year 2011/Elizabeth assembly
CL = model year 2012/Elizabeth assembly

The grill bezel (chrome surrounding grille insert) is the same for all years (at least US Caprice)

CP will need to fill you in on the HSV grille--it's pricey.

Previous post on HSV grille: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=183" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Front Grille Part #

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:51 am
by Tariq
Navy Lifer wrote:Tariq, I know this question was posted for Paul....just had some info to pass along.

The original (2011 1st design) is PN 92258855
Used on VIN's through BL544851

2nd design is PN 92260693
Effective date April 2011
VIN's starting with BL544852

PN 92269769 was introduced in 2012 and is current for 2012>>>2014
Effective date Feb 2012
VIN's starting with CL629338

BL = model year 2011/Elizabeth assembly
CL = model year 2012/Elizabeth assembly

The grill bezel (chrome surrounding grille insert) is the same for all years (at least US Caprice)

CP will need to fill you in on the HSV grille--it's pricey.

Previous post on HSV grille: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=183" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thank you Bill for helping
My Vin # is 6G1ML5D22CL601250
so I think I have to chose PN 92269769, Right?
about the HSV grille I know it will be pricey
but I can get the HSV logo ;) with the inner grille of USA Caprice Version

Wating you Paul :)

Re: Front Grille Part #

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:27 am
by Navy Lifer
Tariq, I don't have a simple answer to satisfy your question. The 3 variants (by PN) of the PPV grille all seem to work with the same chrome grille bezel, so the only way to KNOW if there is a compatibility issue is to have all 3 in hand to compare. But I doubt that is necessary--what we need to find out is whether the chrome bezel on your car is the same PN as used on PPV. That PN is 92199719.

As far as the specifics of the 1st design > 2nd design and VIN's, your car falls into the VIN range that would have used the 92260693 grille if it had gone down the production line as a PPV.

Came across this comment in another thread (excerpt) - quoted from C.P., from July 2013:

"2012-2014 HSV Grange Chrome Grille Assembly is approx US$900 just to buy. I don’t think the grille emblem is included as it has a separate part number.

I did see a used HSV Grange grille recently with chrome surround, minus the HSV emblem…..for $400 Thought the seller must have been smoking crack, but that was before I knew the HSV new price."

Re: Front Grille Part #

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:32 pm
by Crazy Paul
Tariq wrote: Thank you Bill for helping
My Vin # is 6G1ML5D22CL601250
so I think I have to chose PN 92269769, Right?
NO
Your VIN CL601... comes before CL629...
You'll want grille insert 92260693 and emblem 92254412
The emblem you currently have clipped to the horizontal chrome spear will most likely be different to an emblem that clips to a hexagonal pattern grille.
Tariq wrote:about the HSV grille I know it will be pricey
but I can get the HSV logo ;) with the inner grille of USA Caprice Version
No.
The emblem shape is cast onto the matching grille. The emblem attaches into recesses in the casting of the grille.
You can't attach a Chev emblem to a Holden grille or an HSV emblem onto a Chev grille etc etc

Examples:
Mounting pad for a Chev Emblem on a Grille
Image

Mounting pad for a Holden Caprice Emblem on a Grille
Image
Image

Mounting pad for an HSV Emblem on a Grille
Image
Image
A different HSV emblem and the grille would have a different shaped mounting pad cast into it.
Image

Re: Front Grille Part #

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:51 am
by Tariq
Navy Lifer wrote:Tariq, I don't have a simple answer to satisfy your question. The 3 variants (by PN) of the PPV grille all seem to work with the same chrome grille bezel, so the only way to KNOW if there is a compatibility issue is to have all 3 in hand to compare. But I doubt that is necessary--what we need to find out is whether the chrome bezel on your car is the same PN as used on PPV. That PN is 92199719.

As far as the specifics of the 1st design > 2nd design and VIN's, your car falls into the VIN range that would have used the 92260693 grille if it had gone down the production line as a PPV.

Came across this comment in another thread (excerpt) - quoted from C.P., from July 2013:

"2012-2014 HSV Grange Chrome Grille Assembly is approx US$900 just to buy. I don’t think the grille emblem is included as it has a separate part number.

I did see a used HSV Grange grille recently with chrome surround, minus the HSV emblem…..for $400 Thought the seller must have been smoking crack, but that was before I knew the HSV new price."
Thanks Bill for all these info

Re: Front Grille Part #

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:05 am
by Tariq
Crazy Paul wrote:
Tariq wrote: Thank you Bill for helping
My Vin # is 6G1ML5D22CL601250
so I think I have to chose PN 92269769, Right?
NO
Your VIN CL601... comes before CL629...
You'll want grille insert 92260693 and emblem 92254412
The emblem you currently have clipped to the horizontal chrome spear will most likely be different to an emblem that clips to a hexagonal pattern grille.
Tariq wrote:about the HSV grille I know it will be pricey
but I can get the HSV logo ;) with the inner grille of USA Caprice Version
No.
The emblem shape is cast onto the matching grille. The emblem attaches into recesses in the casting of the grille.
You can't attach a Chev emblem to a Holden grille or an HSV emblem onto a Chev grille etc etc

Examples:
Mounting pad for a Chev Emblem on a Grille
Image

Mounting pad for a Holden Caprice Emblem on a Grille
Image
Image

Mounting pad for an HSV Emblem on a Grille
Image
Image
A different HSV emblem and the grille would have a different shaped mounting pad cast into it.
Image
Thanks Paul
So I have to buy
92260693 and emblem 92254412

and can you help me with the price of HSV grille emblem? the one that without circle just the lion and helmet
I will find a way to customise it

Re: Front Grille Part #

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:35 pm
by Crazy Paul
Tariq wrote: Thanks Paul
So I have to buy
92260693 and emblem 92254412
and can you help me with the price of HSV grille emblem? the one that without circle just the lion and helmet
I will find a way to customise it
I'll have answers mid next week.
Where is the shipping to?
Saudi Arabia ??

Re: Front Grille Part #

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:45 am
by Tariq
Crazy Paul wrote:
Tariq wrote: Thanks Paul
So I have to buy
92260693 and emblem 92254412
and can you help me with the price of HSV grille emblem? the one that without circle just the lion and helmet
I will find a way to customise it
I'll have answers mid next week.
Where is the shipping to?
Saudi Arabia ??
Good :mrgreen:

Yes Saudi Arabia
Riyadh City

2 emblem for front grille (E3 style)
2 emblem for trunk (E3 style)

Thanks in advance Paul

Re: Front Grille Part #

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:50 pm
by Crazy Paul
Tariq wrote: Thanks in advance Paul
I sent you a Private Message a few days ago.