Chevy SS Instrument Cluster swap
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Chevy SS Instrument Cluster swap
One of the "aesthetic" faux pas of the interior of my 2014 PPV is its mismatched monochromatic gauge cluster compared to the color display of the myLink 8" center screen. After verifying the cluster pin-outs between my car and the 2015 Chevy SS, I decided to try one.
Well it works mostly but I'll have to contact White Auto to see if they can mate it properly to my ECM and car config (i.e. no bumper sensors/camera, properly reading mileage, etc). However, all basic functions work perfectly. This will end up in my SS dash installation.
Video is here :
https://youtu.be/uXWMmhF1dqk
Well it works mostly but I'll have to contact White Auto to see if they can mate it properly to my ECM and car config (i.e. no bumper sensors/camera, properly reading mileage, etc). However, all basic functions work perfectly. This will end up in my SS dash installation.
Video is here :
https://youtu.be/uXWMmhF1dqk
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Re: Chevy SS Instrument Cluster
Nice mod! I had always wondered if the two clusters were swappable, that's a mod that'll directly made the cars more desirable. Now I know you do lose the shift position indicator but gain the temp gauge, that's not a bad tradeoff. One of the things you need to verify for the group is that you do get a gear position indication on the MFD when you shift with the dash (aka "column") shifter. That would render the manual indicator on the PPV cluster 100% superfluous. Also is there an issue with the odometer other then making it read correct miles for your car? I'm guessing that Chris can reprogram the odometer to match...
Thanks
Eric
Thanks
Eric
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Re: Chevy SS Instrument Cluster
Nice mod! keep us informed on the progress.
Regards,
Maurice
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Maurice
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Re: Chevy SS Instrument Cluster
Eric,elc32955 wrote:Nice mod! I had always wondered if the two clusters were swappable, that's a mod that'll directly made the cars more desirable. Now I know you do lose the shift position indicator but gain the temp gauge, that's not a bad tradeoff. One of the things you need to verify for the group is that you do get a gear position indication on the MFD when you shift with the dash (aka "column") shifter. That would render the manual indicator on the PPV cluster 100% superfluous. Also is there an issue with the odometer other then making it read correct miles for your car? I'm guessing that Chris can reprogram the odometer to match...
Thanks
Eric
All excellent questions that Chris will have to help me answer. I was planning on reaching out to him this week. I've been following his previous work on one of the SS forums and it looks like programming this gauge cluster is a no brainer for him including changing to the red Holden theme and adding additional info that is inherently carried in the GM LAN signal.
As for the gear indicators on the gauges, I'm not too upset if I permanently loose them since I'll be converting the "column" shifter back to the floor shifter (again SS shifter, linkage, and center console).
We'll see what happens. I was dreading having to bolt the stock cluster into the new SS dash. LOL.
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Re: Chevy SS Instrument Cluster
this will only apply on a 2014+ ppv correct?
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Re: Chevy SS Instrument Cluster
I can't speak for the electrical interface but physically, yes 2014+. I bought the 2014+ PPV because it shares the same interior/electronic architecture as the 2014+ Chevy SS (Holden Commodore VF2).xcidmigs wrote:this will only apply on a 2014+ ppv correct?
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Re: Chevy SS Instrument Cluster
Oh man I really like that. Keep us posted!
Mike Friend
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Re: Chevy SS Instrument Cluster
I've been in contact with Chris at White Auto and getting an education on GM's Group A Global Architecture. There are built in security protocols in the components that will brick themselves if they are run in a car that doesn't have the same VIN that it was originally married to at the factory.ls1mike wrote:Oh man I really like that. Keep us posted!
I've sent the IPC (cluster) to him and he'll be working to crack the security protocols. We'll see how this works out.
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Re: Chevy SS Instrument Cluster
After some informative communications with Chris at WAMS, I sent my 2015 Chevy SS IPC to them to take care of the built in security and reprogram it to work with my 2014 PPV. We exchanged a few emails on the weekend as he was working on the IPC and I received it back this week on Thursday. I decided to take the day off today and install it (it's nice to be the boss).
The installation took less than 40 minutes from beginning to end. The only tools needed is a 7mm socket with extension and non-marring interior pry tools.
I fired the car up and it works! I also had Chris add the Performance Menu which adds a few cool toys but more importantly, I now get oil pressure and temperature! Overall, I love the mod. Kudos to Chris for doing a great job! I did this to support my full SS dash installation.
Here is the vid of the final product and the steps I documented for the switch out. I hope this is useful to those with 2014+ PPV and even those with SS's.
VIDEO OF END RESULT
https://youtu.be/Ak3HbtwINTI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
THE SWAP
Reverse order of removal to install new IPC assembly.....
The installation took less than 40 minutes from beginning to end. The only tools needed is a 7mm socket with extension and non-marring interior pry tools.
I fired the car up and it works! I also had Chris add the Performance Menu which adds a few cool toys but more importantly, I now get oil pressure and temperature! Overall, I love the mod. Kudos to Chris for doing a great job! I did this to support my full SS dash installation.
Here is the vid of the final product and the steps I documented for the switch out. I hope this is useful to those with 2014+ PPV and even those with SS's.
VIDEO OF END RESULT
https://youtu.be/Ak3HbtwINTI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
THE SWAP
Reverse order of removal to install new IPC assembly.....
2014 Chevrolet Caprice PPV
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2015 BMW X5 iDrive 50i
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Re: Chevy SS Instrument Cluster
Very sharp!
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2002 CETA trans am
1996 Impala ss (soon to be t56)
1995 9c1
1977 Trans am SE 4spd.
1978 trans am 400 4 spd.