mixing and matching tpms sensors

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mixing and matching tpms sensors

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I just picked up a set of 2012 camaro 20's id like to get another set of sensors, the camaro rims still have the rubber stem in them. Can I just get another gm tpms sensor? Or will the aluminum stem ones fit in the camaro wheels? Ideally, I'd like to keep the oem sensors in the oem steel wheels.


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Gerome
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Re: mixing and matching tpms sensors

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I believe you can run more than one set tpms . Their are a few guys on the g8 forum that run summer and winter tires . So like I said I think you should be able to do so .
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Re: mixing and matching tpms sensors

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I just bought a set of alloy wheels from an '09 G8....they have rubber stems as well, do they have tpms and if so are they compatible...they still have tires mounted, so I'm not sure what is under them....by the way, I have bowtie emblems and the means to make them work on the Pontiac centers so it won't be ultra cheezy.....
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Re: mixing and matching tpms sensors

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I haven't seen any sensors that use rubber valve stems other than the system on the 1st Gen MINI that calculated wheel speed to detect a pressure difference. It couldn't read pressure specifically but it would let you know you needed to check for an issue. Having said that I imagine those G8 wheels have no sensors.
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Re: mixing and matching tpms sensors

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bnsfBO wrote:I just picked up a set of 2012 camaro 20's id like to get another set of sensors, the camaro rims still have the rubber stem in them. Can I just get another gm tpms sensor? Or will the aluminum stem ones fit in the camaro wheels? Ideally, I'd like to keep the oem sensors in the oem steel wheels.
The aluminum stem sensors will fit. Often, sellers of OE take-off wheel & tire packages remove the sensors and mount them in the new wheels going onto the vehicle. Since the PPV is fitted with this type of sensor, I would stick with it--whether you purchase a new set of sensors, or pull them from the original steel wheels.

There are several threads in wheel/tire forum already with some information that may be helpful--here's one:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=397" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Inside the above, you'll find this:
http://www.ssforums.com/forum/wheels-ti ... -tpms.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ACDelco info:
http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalo ... ttype=4259" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

CAPRICE(5)2011-2013 - sensor is common with 2011 & newer Camaro

2013 V6-217ci 3.6L FLEX/FI Vin 3

2013 V8-5967cc 6.0L FLEX/FI Vin 2

2012 V6-217ci 3.6L F/I Vin 3

2012 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin 2

2011 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin 2


Rock Auto info: (searching 2011 Caprice)
ACDelco - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinf ... cc=1447573" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Schrader - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinf ... cc=1447573" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dorman - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinf ... cc=1447573" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: mixing and matching tpms sensors

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I was hoping that G8 setup would be compatible, but with the rubber stems I had my doubts. I'm sure they had some type of tpms, but I'm not sure what. I had a '97 buick that had tpms, so I just was assuming the flagship for Pontiac of 09 would have something. Guess I'm gonna have to buy some...really wanting to keep my steelies in tact.
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Re: mixing and matching tpms sensors

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OK, doing a look-up of 2009 G8 (GXP), the Dorman direct-fit sensor is the same as listed for the 2011-2013 Caprice.

Dorman - aluminum bolt-in
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinf ... cc=1442794" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ACD - rubber
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinf ... cc=1442794" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, that means that any bolt-in sensor listed in (my) previous post is compatible in place of the rubber-stem sensors listed above (from ACDelco).

I think, honestly, that the bolt-in aluminum sensors are probably considered more durable and more robust, when it comes to vehicles that might run at really high speeds, ie. above 150 mph. That said, the G8 sensors should work--just realize that all TPMS sensors do have a service life, as there is a battery in the sensor that eventually stops working--I've read or been told it's in the 5 to 7 year range, typically. Rather than install old sensors (from G8) it's probably smarter to use new sensors in your second wheel set. Technology comes at a price!

As for your 97 Buick, the factory system in those days typically was a single alarm on the IP that said TIRE PRESSURE LOW, did not identify the wheel position, and did not provide real-time pressure information--there were NO sensors in the wheels, as the system used the ABS sensor signal. As James (Eagle-co94) mentioned, these systems calculated wheel speed differences against an expected signal for a given road speed. Low tire inflation would reduce the tire radius and result in a higher wheel speed for that position, and eventually pass a threshold of speed differential that sets the alarm.
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Re: mixing and matching tpms sensors

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Very insightful...I guess I will go ahead and replace the sensors, since I need to put new tires on the wheels anyways. The buick did indeed just tell me I had a low tire, and it drove me nuts walking around the car continually with a tire gauge. Thanks for the research and information. If I ever get my other house sold, I'll have money to complete the mod...
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Re: mixing and matching tpms sensors

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Still haven't got new tires or sensors, but wanna show the wheels.....

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Re: mixing and matching tpms sensors

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Nice . What center caps are you using ?
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