Brake Speculation

Suspension, brake, and hydraulic/electric steering discussion.
PPV
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Re: Brake Speculation

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Did some test fitting of the front 2014 SS calipers. I measured the mounting bolts and looks like the length being shorter than the Camaro aren't going to be an issue. The bolts actually have about 3-4 turns extra. Too bad the rotors weren't a tick bigger as the pads hang over on the outside just a tad.
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Re: Brake Speculation

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The Brembo calipers aren't meant to mount on the Caprice using Caprice rotors--they're 10mm smaller in diameter and thinner (30mm vs 32mm) than the correct 355mm rotors from SS, GXP, or Camaro SS.

Which bolts are you using--the OE PPV bolts are also 14mm but shorter by a few mm's.

Maybe I'm missing something....?
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Re: Brake Speculation

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Navy Lifer wrote:The Brembo calipers aren't meant to mount on the Caprice using Caprice rotors--they're 10mm smaller in diameter and thinner (30 vs 32) than the correct 355mm rotors from SS, GXP, or Camaro SS.

Which bolts are you using--the OE PPV bolts are also 14mm but shorter by a few mm's.

Maybe I'm missing something....?
The correct 355mm rotors are on order just did a test fit. I suppose if someone wanted to cheap out they could trim the overhang off the pads.

I was measuring the PPV caliper bolt. Initially I was thinking the PPV mounting bolt wouldn't be long enough but after checking the thread engagement I am going to use the PPV bolts as they are long enough plus a few turns.
1970 SS454 Monte Carlo - triple black
1971 SS454 Monte Carlo - Red w/ black gut & top
1970 Convertible Mont Carlo - Sold
1968 K10 short wheel base
2009 Silverado 1500
2013 9C1 - PBM - Sold
2013 CTS-V Coupe Silver Frost Matte Eddition
2017 SS - PBM - M6 - Roof - Sold
2019 Silverado 1500 - LTZ 6.2
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Re: Brake Speculation

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PPV wrote: after checking the thread engagement I am going to use the PPV bolts as they are long enough plus a few turns.
Good info....whether you choose to replace the bolts with new or not (GM says always replace as a single-use item), the PN is 11570092.
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Re: Brake Speculation

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Question for those in the know. When converting the fronts to brembo are the 6pot calipers compatible with the 355mm Camaro|chevy SS rotors?
1970 SS454 Monte Carlo - triple black
1971 SS454 Monte Carlo - Red w/ black gut & top
1970 Convertible Mont Carlo - Sold
1968 K10 short wheel base
2009 Silverado 1500
2013 9C1 - PBM - Sold
2013 CTS-V Coupe Silver Frost Matte Eddition
2017 SS - PBM - M6 - Roof - Sold
2019 Silverado 1500 - LTZ 6.2
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no--the 6-piston caliper is used with the 370mm rotor, which is also 2mm thicker at 34mm
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WooHoo, look what the Big Brown Truck(TM) just pooped out on my driveway!! I stumbled on a set of front and rear Gen1 CTS-V calipers for the price of shipping!! They also came with a set of new Hawk brake pads and another big box full of misc. brake and AN fittings and adapters.
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They're not perfect, but will be fine under steel 9C1 wheels and are fully-functional. Now to order rotors!! :D
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Re: Brake Speculation

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CrashTestDummy wrote:WooHoo, look what the Big Brown Truck(TM) just pooped out on my driveway!! I stumbled on a set of front and rear Gen1 CTS-V calipers for the price of shipping!! They also came with a set of new Hawk brake pads and another big box full of misc. brake and AN fittings and adapters.
CTS-V caliper.JPG
They're not perfect, but will be fine under steel 9C1 wheels and are fully-functional. Now to order rotors!! :D

Looks good!!!! this is a mod i cant wait to do! Almost as much for aesthetics as performance!!
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Re: Brake Speculation

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Question , can we use the Camaro spindle and hub to make this brake swap happen . I ask because I have a chance to get them kind of cheap .
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Not sure I understand your question....these brakes bolt on directly to the PPV front upright (knuckle/spindle) and the hub specs for sedans, even if different from Camaro, accept the same rotors--examples are G8 GXP and 2014>2016 SS sedans.

Rear rotors & calipers from 2015/2016 SS sedan are direct bolt-on to the PPV.

Things you have to deal with:

CTS-V 1st gen front calipers use 12mm bolts, but the PPV uses 14mm bolts--either sleeve the holes in the uprights (bushings) to use 12mm bolts, or drill & tap the ears on the front calipers to the correct 14mm thread.

CTS-V 1st gen rear calipers use 12mm bolts to mount to the rear uprights--info on correct length bolts to use is elsewhere in this thread. The transfer lines MUST be swapped end-for-end with the bleed valves to use on the PPV or any other Zeta sedan.
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